Book Hunting Trip. All the other ranches dislike them. Monday - Fri: 9:00am - 6:00pm. Basically, the Outfitter is a store keeper, yet we the people supply the wildlife on the shelf almost for free and pitch in shelf stockers (the Game & Fish) to make sure the Outfitter is fully stocked. Being put out of business? Allow electronic calls, baiting, flying the area up to the day of your hunt, and many more ways to control the population! Fast forward to now and we see both Elk herds and Wolf packs in equilibrium. This is a typical land owner complaining about a problem but not allowing access. Lower the price for non resident hunters. They find it on private properties, and now theres too many of them. Everything from invasive species (weeds) to fence repair etc. Its a racket!!! WHen wolves were introduced the herd count was 19,000 +/- . It takes some time to be familiar with an area. These same whiners are more than happy to cash their damage checks though. 2023 Hunting Information . Kathleen: All Wyoming ranchers that have serious impact from deer, antelope and elk feeding on their private property need to file animal damage claims with Game and Fish. Wyomings land management is schizoid. They seem to do a great job on elk calves. Ranchers cant have it both ways, Is it still to today have the elk problem. Unfortunately rancher greed has taken over and ranchers dont want to allow un-outfitted paying hunters on their land, or want to charge hefty trespass fees. Its a large tract of land, trespassing is a common occurrence as is disrespect for the land private and public. I love the people who have no clue and they say bring in the wolves. Come join us and experience the hunt of a lifetime . Selling more tags decreased the hunter success rate the past few years. Managers also dramatically liberalized the seasons, letting hunters stay at it until the end of January. But none of this will be as benificial as Wolves. Elk application deadline is January 31st. And nowhere is there mention of allowing natures built in control system, wolves. I have found all of the reading most interesting its been an education for me being from Taylors South Carolina and now a young 63 year-old I dont know if I would ever have the chance to hunt such a magnificent animal as the elk they are huge and majestic looking and to see them in a herd as described in this article its just hard for me to imagine but I would love the opportunity to work the fence line repairing helping for just food and stay Iam sure that I could find way to the job site to work I do have a hemi power dodge ram truck that Im sure would make the trip but enough Smalltalk protecting the elk and the Elks habitat and ranchers land would be number one there are many ways that yall could benefit by having me on the team The list is too long to mention all of them. If your not rich you wont hunt. If we cant find a solution desease in our herds soon will. None of this would have ever happened if we didnt start killing them off because mother nature knows how to keep everything in check! Stay up to date with important news . IF YOU DONT DO IT, YOU LOSE. Our Location - RED HILLS RANCH PAINTS. We have a great time and see mule deer and antelope like no where else you could hunt . In Episode 1 of MeatEater Season 10, I took country music star Luke Combs out for a Wyoming antelope hunt. as icing on the cake, a trophy bull!! . Today the northern herd is at a healthy sustainable consistent population of about 7500. Give out a million tags. Lost Creek Outfitters is a permittee of the Shoshone National Forest Thats just the start of Turtle Rock Ranchs elk problems. The highest-elevation areas are generally part of the Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest, state land and Bureau of Land Management property. About 100 a year get permission from the family, he said, and another 225 or so have access to certain parts of the ranch through a state-administered hunting management program. I dont and cant see the problem. Browse our annual galleries and take a look at some of our most impressive hunts at Wagonhound! Directions: Head north on highway US 191 N. Turn right on Gros Ventre Road. Back during the early sixties the northern herd in YNP was maybe 35,000 40 K and they were starving . Let the sportsman on and they will fix your problem! I will say, I know a guy from Wisconsin who hunts the Area 7, and he says that the wolves back there have really thrown deer numbers down to the point where they are struggling to keep their numbers up, so I dont think wolves are the answer, it would be even harder to manage the wolf population than elk in my opinion. There are too many competing desires($$$). WG&F is a government organization, slow to react. Bring some of them elk to Missouri so more people can hunt them here. With so many areas to hunt and the . We are having a hard time with the price of groceries. To Ranch and Farm in historical winter ranges of the game species must be shared with out any concern for the intruders, the game must come first. Also, I cant believe I have to say this, but elk are not terrorists. In Montana, efforts to increase landowner licenses were met with a firestorm of opposition and failed. Perhaps ranchers shouldnt receive hay money from the state until a certain public access threshold is met. Im not any happier about this than they are, however this is what happens:/. We hunted Turtle Rock one day in 2020. We rely on readers like you to keep our reporters in the field unearthing the stories that matter to you. I agree with Lou, incentivize the the ranchers to allow access. Plus, it looks like the president of the Wyoming Outfitters is putting his two cents in regarding the terrorist elk. Weve turned a species loose on them that is destroying their way of life, and we did it without asking them.. Would this work in the Laramies? THE RULE OF THE THUMB IS . All hunting and fishing activities at The Ranch at UCross require a Wyoming license and the assistance of our on-site registered outfitter. Increase the cooperation between public and private, etc. I have been a resident of wyoming the majority of my 57 years as a kid private ranchers would allow hunting, admittedly with issues of hunters disrespecting boundaries from time to time , but with that said I think the majority of hunters were appreciative of the opportunity to be able to enjoy the sport feed their familys and to help the rancher in many cases. One thing to remember is that the public ground is the publics and the Animals on it are the peoples. fed up with your whining about the elk on your private ground, most pushed there because you went scorched earth with your nearly free livestock grazing on the public lands. Take care of our own first. Douglas, WY 82633 This makes the 3R Ranch 2371+/- of contiguous rare to market acres. While guiding in Wyoming Jeff met his wife Deb, a fourth generation Wyoming native. Seems like G&F could do a better job of allowing more hunters in the area. Is there to many elk? Your license fees are to out of line in price and not enough out of state tags. Cross C Ranch. The company's filing status is listed as Active and its File Number is 2015-000695723 . Elk are also a headache in less predictable ways. Hunting with ATV,s is a large part of the training, along with the constant pressure of filming wildlife for all of the hunting programs. Want to join the discussion? Forced access will not work with Wyoming ranchers. 4.) This prime estate has been family owned for 5 generations and is some of the most superior and exclusive hunting land in the western United States. With an open water system combined with the fact that the majority of ducks and geese that arrive in the fall will stay the entire winter, making for prime hunting. Some camps you can drive your vehicle to and others we horseback you in. Access no money is the biggest farce perpetrated on Wyoming hunters in history! Toggle navigation. You need to do this the natural way like it was meant to. This system is working very well and the public is paying to feed the publicly owned horses. Cattle eat grass. Outfitter License No: BG168. They are actual stewards of the land, and so many people dont understand the struggles they face. The new and current methods to hunt the elk, deer and antelope put excess and constant pressure on the game animals. The Renos in the Rochelle Hills bought private elk and turned them loose and privately managed them for many years or until they multiplied and began ranging far from the Reno ranch. We rely on loyal members like you to sustain our reporting and grow the WyoFile community. Great opportunity to hunt on the ranch with lots of elk and elk meat for the money: $3,000* 3: November - thru December: 2:1 . VIETNAM VETERAN U.S. ARMY RETD PROUD AMERICAN PATRIOT. How petty are these ranchers that have a conniption when people corner cross from public land to public land? A cardinal rule of landscape scale ecology is every herbivore needs a complement carnivore(s). I know guys that have gone 5 years without drawing a tag. Home Hunts PHOTOS > > > PRICES . 5400 Bishop Blvd. I think that the game and fish should assign over populated ranches to hunters. Why ? State task force is exploring alternative ways of issuing hunting licenses to increase pressure and dislodge animals from ranchland refuges. The Game and Fish would manage selections and the hunt. Please call us prior to applying for a hunting license. I find this article very interesting being on the heels of corner hopping charges on hunters being conservitive and respectful of land and laws. Getty Images. Today there is no way at age 73 can I evan think of paying the high cost of license and high cost of an outfitter. Too bad natural predators like wolves arent around.that might lower the number of elk. Fantastic, here are the ground rules: This is a privilege for me. Gates left open, trash, etc. He takes a two-week reprieve from ranching to outfit hunters each fall, but interest is limited and hes competing for oftentimes wealthy nonresident clients with more specialized outfitters like Wagonhounds Dax McCarty. If you are interested in improving public access, please work with organizations that follow the well established practice of acquiring legal access across private land. There are many issues with the range, change in the environment, how GF manages the populations and hunter access. Lots of misconceptions in these comments: Best meat in the world and the women would use the hide and Elk teeth, problem solved. (Wyoming Game and Fish Department/Courtesy). The landowners out there that are really angry are really angry, and what weve done to them needs to be reconsidered, Gilliland told fellow members of the Wyoming Wildlife Taskforce in March. DIY Archery & Rifle elk hunts from $2,500 to $2,750 per person. The fast and nimble elk or the slow and hefty domestic cattle?! If you were an elk, where would you go?! Be respectful and work together to find a solution. But changing how hunting licenses are issued to address the elk overpopulation problems on private land promises to be a heavier lift because its such a contentious issue. Fix the cattle situation first, then get back to us and well figure the elk thing out. If the Ranches dont want to play than dont give them money from the tax payers for damages to crops and fences or hay. Everything is great until someone or something destroys your livelihood. The ranchers/land owners complain about the elk, but they lease the land to outfitters and deny hunting to everyone else, or if they do allow hunting its only for cows since the outfitters guide for bulls. We look forward to hearing from you. Recommendations that emerged from the task force in the first year changed state law, granting Wyoming residents a higher percentage of moose, bighorn sheep, mountain goat, bison and grizzly bear hunting licenses. So, the buffalo are not free ranging in the true meaning . I hope thousands more Elk and Deer and Buffalo and whatever other wildlife finds its way to your ranch prevails and maybe you should just live in the city with the rest of the human infestation. Instead they contract with a outfitter and cherry pics a few animals off their land for a big payout to the rancher. Rawhide Creek Ranch offers both Rifle and Archery hunting. Most ranchers use the elk as a money making tool via the outfitters then have the gall to cry when the elk numbers get excessive. About Dosing; CBD is for Pets Too! There are many elderly and homeless and poor families that could use those resources to survive than be spent on poor judgement. The antelope hunts are from blinds on water holes, set up for shots of 20 yards or less. We are located in the Laramie Mountain Range, 30 miles West of Wheatland, Wyoming.